right now germany is not totally there. i thought it was significant when angela merkel, the chancellor said that she could get to that third place, that third level which would mean targeting sectors, but more work has to be done. that's critical here. president putin understands there are some breaks in that western armor here, including between germany and the u.s. she's coming with a brief from businesses in germany that still want to do business in russia, so that's very tough for president obama. and this spying issue, you know, it's very tough to talk about spying on an ally. the president saying that traditional expectations were tipped over because of technology. in other words, we got better at spying and we used it even against our friends. that's going to be, i'm sure, a pretty delicate conversation as they move forward. >> fair to say those were a couple of awkward moments during that news conference. let me bring in chuck todd, white house correspondent and political director. chuck, when we talk about sanctio